Tbc boss nerfs Good thing. 3 TBC imgur. *~ To tbc's difficult parts came from extreme bugs,or extreme overtuning,like muru getting 40% hp nerfs if i recal - - - Updated There is a feeling of accomplishment and progression from defeating a boss that poses any threat at all, and that is taken away with the nerfs. 0 nerfs when they do push Wrath Classic prepatch. 3 TBC Gem Nerfs The two targeted gems here were the popular Timewalking gems, Timeless Tanzanite and Sovereign Tanzanite. Attumen (rider) will spawn near Midnight (horse). Tarnished Undermine Real drops in Molten Core and Blackwing Lair increased to 3 per boss (was 1). Comment by Josephcurwen on 2024-09-29T02:25:45-05:00. Once you have reached Zul'Aman, you can visit the Flight Master Kiz Coilspanner, /way 74. Spine of Deathwing was probably the hardest of this tier, but it was much easier than Rag heroic, and the only reason why it was hard was because of the extreme DPS requirement and not because of hard mechanics. In retail tbc my guild did this with Illidan. From heroics to almost every boss in raids. In the post-nerf version, both the damage output and the health total of bosses are reduced. And Player power. Game Designer #9 - July 24, 2012, 10 There has been a lot of buzz on the topic of the tier 6 raids in phase 3 every since players discovered that we are getting the nerfed versions of that content right away. Blizzard has announced Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep raid nerfs for TBC Classic on the next weekly reset. It was a "feels good man" moment to know we didnt have to wait on the nerfs to get him down, but sadly the guild refused to go to Funwell Detailed guides to all raids in World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Classic, including loot and strategy guides for Phase 1 raids Karazhan, Gruul's Lair, and Magtheridon's Lair. Good job with the other RLP nerfs tho. Thanks to Dorovon for helping parse some of these hotfixes. The raids were different, as Blizz changed their timeline for release (as well as their associated nerfs). 4. You definitely need 5 people. So we got it all in one, but I think the 2. December 13, 2024 Season of Discovery. If you can't do it with 15 years of info that's on you. 7 PTR 11. black temple Boss Guides - TBC Classic . Then again, now with the nerfs I guess capable might not mean as much as it Request a loan 10 times more than your salary BlizzConline had a roundtable with Blizzard developers discussing The Burning Crusade, and their favorite memories of it. I’d challenge anyone to give a legit, non-troll, non-toxic reason why these bosses shouldn’t be nerfed. However, If the full 2. Tempest Keep is a 25-player raid that is located on the eastern side of the Netherstorm. There were huge nerfs. 352 votes, 221 comments. First boss is patchwerk in naxx, and the other boss is Brutallus in sunwell. People need to realize that just like leveling got better, bosses got harder every expansion. Or I'd rather see them simply delete some packs but otherwise not nerf the packs. Edit #1: Added Neltharion's Lair Skitters. The orbs on final boss need to be nuked from orbit, or the slow. If content isnt put into phases by blizzard, people will kill illidan within a month. Upcoming Mythic+ If it's the spawn nerf the boss will be pretty useless haha. 1d Changes to the Hallowfall Magisters' Terrace is a 5-man instance located on the Isle of Quel'Danas. It was a very viable raiding trinket throughout TBC, despite being from Classic. 3 values) it will greatly diminish the difficulty in 90% of PVE content, with maybe Sunwell being the only exception. Sort by: The only nerfs that happened before 2. :/ Watcher. Almost nobody played these versions of the bosses back in the day, so they were cool to see. We can only hope that this time around, the classic dev team will do a better job at Having to use a spreadsheet with generated best in slot items just to kill a single raid boss is not good game design. With the weekly reset in each region (July 5 here), we intend to apply the following Achievements have been datamined in Season of Mastery, more bot / gold farm nerfs, new boss mechanics for Molten Core and Onyxia are coming later this week for testing! comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Justify your opinions by commenting. High Warlord Naj'entus. Big Raid bosses are getting nerfed bc they're getting nerfed, not really as a change to mechanics. If you read the article you'll find that BT only had bug fixes instead of nerfs AND they are planning pre/post nerf versions of Sunwell (as per the original game). You still have to kill the adds in the boss room but when the boss dies the hallway adds despawn. 1 era of the game. Mythic Fyrakk Nerfs on Weekly Reset - 10% Boss HP and Dispels Nerf. g xylem as sub rogue. The Firesworn will hit you with ERUPTION upon being killed. according to Tomrus it's not enough nerfs until you can pug the end tier mythic boss in LFG. I'm fine As of right now on the PTR, all bosses are available for testing, which would make sense because players will need to test each boss and iron out any bugs before release. It posed no difficulty at all. Comment by snakefloss on 2021-04-03T09:44:48-05:00. 3, heroic keys effectively removed by making them honored, etc. Comment by Omgkthxby on 2024-01-11T18:46:26-06:00. 1 nerfs would have been almost the same really. Guess it will be even more faceroll now 🤷♂️. Here is some important stuff you need to know: with my normal Shadowlands ilvl 200 gear and it was tough. 3x200K hits in fraction of second. I think it's likely we will get next phase in December. Comment by wtfmang on 2024-01-11T18:46:45-06 UPDATED NOVEMBER 18 After working through a great deal of player feedback, we’ve decided to provide some additional changes that will be a part of Anniversary Realms. 1 and 2. Where is your limit to nerfs, you changed Vanilla and TBC so much so many Classic ppl quit to play harder WoW like SoM even just for 1year. If they do what they did in classic then tbc is screwed since the pve content got 10x more nerfs than vanilla. Open comment sort options Your post implies you raid more than 1-2 times a week, if you had 2 raid days focused solely on an end boss. but p2 with "soft enrage" due to massive hp buff to adds and boss often ends in no space to fight. Blizzard has posted Mythic+ dungeon tuning for today which includes nerfs to Uldaman and Neltharus! Live PTR 10. This will immediately include Guild Banks, the Group Browser Tool, and the Arena standings update that makes team ranking viewable and award cutoff information available at special Arena NPCs. A clear example is phase 3 on kaelthas which an extreme dps check. Mechanics remain, but overall the bosses are less dangerous. Comment by Ashreon on 2021-04-03T09:53 Last boss in Heroic, in most raids in the last 3 xpacs or so, have been vastly more difficult than going 10/10, even late in the patch with power creep. A set of upcoming nerfs to Mythic Tindral has been applied 20% nerf to boss health. com Open. You and your guild don't deserve to kill the bosses. AoTC guild group was having trouble at third boss. Prince Malchezaar is the current ruler of Karazhan, however little else is known about him except that he is a Man'ari Eredar, and is possibly a sub-commander of the Burning Legion. The Nerub-ar Palace Race to World First is underway! Dratnos & Tettles discuss Ansurek's enrage, boss nerfs and tuning, and more in the RWF Day 11 recap. Blizzard thus heavily nerfed boosting in the Season of Mastery version of Classic, taking several measures to discourage players from AoE farming This includes a 10% auto-attack nerf on live servers for all Mythic+ dungeons, specific nerfs to Necrotic Wake, Sanguine Depths and Theater of Pain, and more! Live PTR 10. Same with vashj. Heroics will be AoE cleared on literally day 1-2, no boss until Vashj/Kael will present any zerg guild any form of challenge, and raids will be extremely faceroll until Sunwell (which also received some significant nerfs). This can be stopped by using a Shaman's Mythic Nexus Princess Ky'veza, the sixth boss in Nerub-ar Palace, has now been nerfed as the Race to World First continues! There will be another big wave of nerfs once the race is over. Excluding the pre patch nerfs which like cut 30-50% HP of every raid boss (Yes T5 is nerfed even more) the nerfs I expect are these M'uru, they have atleast 3 times more hp than tbc bosses for example, blizzard really messed up scaling. Broodtwister has overtaken Mythic: Gorefiend as the mid-raid boss having the most guilds walled behind it. I'm trying to find out how many boss nerfs there have been since release. We launched on 2. As I recall this only happened with Kael'Thas and M'uru, both of whom received small 5-10% nerfs to health. No, to call the game “significantly nerfed” would be a big oversimplification. 2 for Burning Crusade Classic. There were also a VR is a snooze-fest, Solarian's core mechanics can be cheesed to a ridiculous degree, and KT is only difficult because of the potential for really bad RNG. In an interview for PCGamer, production director Patrick Dawson and lead producer Holly Longdale, revealed that Classic The Burning Crusade will feature pre-nerf bosses at launch, since players have decades of knowledge at the content. Lapew98 The content isn't hard, time management and the roster boss are the hardest parts. So many fights in this I would consider much easier than the previous ones and so many bosses I would not even consider remarkable in tbc. There was a lot of confusion after last night’s announcement by Blizzard of tier 5 content nerfs. That'd be like introducing Death Knights in June or something. I don't think we'd all feel the same way if we were still 8/10 the week before the nerfs. Comment by GuyKopski on 2024-09-30T18:07:36-05:00 TBC boss difficulty Last night my Guild did a full Kara run on the PTR. That said, difficulty should be based around 2. 4), they also nerfed the hitpoints of the bosses. For those who remember, Cataclysm on launch was A LOT harder than Wrath In both the dungeons and Raids. Btw where are the « 3 difficult boss » nerfs ? Why not nerfing the raid like that (it was your first intention if i remember well) ? Appear to be treated as boss level mobs due to their ability to crush and higher chance to resist spells: Hellfire Channeler: 8000-12000: 364200: 1016100: Shadow Bolt Volley for 1488-2012, Burning Abyssal for 2628-3329, Dark Mending for 70000-81000, Soul Transfer: Immune: Educated Guess, 1: N/A: Burning Abyssal: 2500-3300: 2095800: 0: Fire Please stop with there nerfs "retail" devs! - #17 by Synrelia-kazzak Loading Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep Attunements Removed Next Week with Boss Nerfs. It seems that Blizzard's indecisiveness regarding the nerfs to Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep content is finally over, as we now have an official decision by Kaivax on the topic. Reply reply More replies. Last night my Guild did a full Kara run on the PTR. Magtheridon is a boss that can be found in Magtheridon's Lair. The 5th boss the War Champion is by far the hardest, you basically need to Boosting took off in popularity during Classic, greatly distorting the economy. 1, which nerfed these bosses in original TBC, released 4 months after the expansion dropped. Comment by Jepperson96 on 2024-10-28T19:03:53-05:00. 3. Mythic+ Dungeon Tuning for April 27th - Uldaman and Neltharus Nerfs. But I doubt it. In the original Burning Crusade, on day 1 only the In TBC now, killing Magtheridon feels disgusting, after having done the fight before the nerfs. Phase 2. What they dont realize is that usually by the time the "main tanks" get all the crap they need to make thier resist gear with they quit playing the game, quit the guild, or just flake out and decide they have all the stuff they want out of the instance and decide to It's not TBC authentic to get these nerfs before BT launch to begin with but here we are lol Reply reply More replies More replies. Live Posted 2024/02/06 at 9:54 AM by Squishei. But if the nerfs mean 8/10 guilds can finally kill the bosses, that's fine with me. Hellfire Ramparts, sometimes called just "Ramps" or "Ramparts", is one of Now players know exactly what to expect in an encounter--they just don't know at what part of the encounter it's coming. So it doesn't really Honestly Silken Court is more deserving of nerfs then this guy. Why? the fight was Alongside next week's Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep boss nerfs, Blizzard has announced that players will no longer need to complete the attunements to zone into the raids. In a somewhat surprising turn of Players testing the new phase 3 raids — Black Temple & Mount Hyjal — discovered something interesting: some of the bosses were in their “post-nerf” states and certain aspects of the raids reflected their state after changes The boss nerfs in general seem extreme, outside Vashj. Amirdrassil Race to World First Day 5 Recap - T raid coverage, and boss guies. Edit - Oh and the frost bombs on third boss of Azure Vault too. Begins when Midnight reaches 95% health. 1 and the drop chance of vials for attunement had to be changed along with boss nerfs. 0 HP, the Wrath prepatch which is commonly confused for TBC nerfs. karazhan Boss Guides - TBC Classic . Reply more reply [deleted] • Its no longer challenging its just pain to get trough those two bosses just nerf them please Then at the final TBC patch (2. Comment by Dabraxus on 2021-12-18T00:03:51-06:00. Dec TBC So here are all the Nerfs that I found on different sources: SSC The 2007 hardcore-ish raiding scene took a few months to bash against early bosses as hotfix nerfs rolled in. Most likely pre-nerf Vashj will be the hardest boss of TBC until M'uru. 2021 в 17:47 Squishei. So it doesn't really make sense to argue about the strength of the nerfs, but rather the timing. With the most recent update to The Burning Crusade Classic you are no longer required to become attuned to Tempest Keep to enter the Static Charge — A debuff will appear on a random player in the raid and deal 2,000 Nature damage to anyone within 5 yards of them. It doesn't affect me or my guild. 2 PTR 11. One nice thing is there are often tons of other people waiting around and will help you take down the boss. forums. 2. the night before the nerfs went out we finally downed him. 0. If you’re saying we get whatever version of Kara that existed a month after release and with no nerfs in 2. But yeah Kael’thas was undefeated for a very long time in TBC, and even after all the nerfs, . Allow me to explain myself: In 2024, my sorry minimum wage *** is playing on a: Intel core I5-12450HX, that's an 8-core processor with four performance cores running at 4. Though I think the way you tried to frame what you were saying was dishonest in the extent of nerfs that occurred between 2. 0 Beta. Nerfs to Phase 2 Pre-nerf Vashj was never killed in original TBC. Delirium has set in at the Liquid Race to World First, but Dratnos and Tettles have battled through it to bring you today's Recap video! Day 11 Recap - Ansurek Enrage, Boss Nerfs and Tuning; As most of you know, all of the raid content released in Classic was not pre-nerf and was released at its 1. Summary. Comment by craycrayderp on 2024-09-24T20:24:31-05:00 Phase 3 was released on Week 17 of original TBC; we're already at Week 23 on TBC Classic. Just did Void Reaver and got a total of 10g (that was including half the trash in his room I pulled with him). Well before the general populace was in heroics. TBC Опубликовано 09. Hellfire Ramparts Dungeon Overview for Burning Crusade Classic Welcome to Wowhead's comprehensive strategy guide to Hellfire Ramparts, including tips, tricks, spells, abilities and loot drops for all bosses, associated dungeon quests, and notes on differences in Heroic Difficulty. Post 2. With a few exceptions, what we see is what we Blizzard has announced even more massive nerfs to Sepulcher of the First Ones, which includes some more gigantic nerfs to Mythic Jailer. This isn't a cool change. Good. mechanic is p1 and easy peasy. So I'd say it was a good sized nerf, unless you want half 1k+ WR guilds to disband In a perfect World, halondrus would be a 2nd last boss, then they could have gone incremental in nerfs. In a Forum thread posted by User Fatnerdxo asking about post nerf status of some Tier 6 bosses, Blizzard Community Manager Kaivax responded to clear up some confusion, Gamer dads rejoice you killed TBC for everyone else but atleast you can kill Illidan within 6 months now. Comment by Happens on 2022-05-02T21:41:03-05:00. 1. Actually, wait, they do thanks to the raid journal. Many boss abilities were removed or reworked, most notably Lady Vashj would no longer use Persuasion to mind Dratnos & Tettles discuss the progress on Tindral Sageswift, encounter design, T-Swift nerfs, and more in the RWF Day Five recap. Every TBC boss on Live gives 250g, end bosses drop 300g. I'm TBC the barrier is a little higher but you can effectively finish most (if not all) the starting attunement on your way to level 70. The instance features four bosses: Selin Fireheart, Vexallus, Priestess Delrissa and Kael'thas Sunstrider himself, who has returned despite his "defeat" in Tempest Keep: The Eye. Comment by TOMRUS on 2024-10-29T14:16:15-05:00. Then we ended up getting completely run over by the first boss and called it lol. Good, but not good enough. For TBC Classic, Blizzard has changed this to release the races early, giving players some time to level these fresh characters to 60 so that they can level with their friends on week 1 of the expansion. Kel'Thuzad takes the cake in my books because only very few guilds managed to down him during Vanilla WoW, but perhaps it was mainly because of the HP/DMG/Healing buff TBC classic will probably be more of a challenge, the boss fights will be longer and more complex than classic. And no, Halondrus didn't really come close since the Halondrus nerfs came pretty fast. Comment The rest of tbc will be mostly easy as well minus a few bosses. 3 content, there will be no additional nerfs to the dungeon content. m. Comment by solindvian on 2024-02-06T10:00:29-06:00 TBC Nerfs 14. He is considered by many to be the final boss of Karazhan, however, some consider the creature Nightbane, (who is only available to be summoned after killing Malchezaar at least once), to this is a fairly easy set of quests if you have a good tank. Comment by Ouro nerfs 4 months after vanilla AQ release that you may have forgotten the boss that went the longest time before it was killed in WoW's history due to this. Leothoras the Blind, Fathom-Lord Karathress, Lady Vashj, Boss Nerfs. Has anybody a good overview of the nerfs that were implemented over time during TBC? A lot of discussion in this sub are revolving around difficulty levels and to me it is really hard to define what the "nerfed" or "unnerfed" version of a raid is (apart from the WotLK prepatch). Comment by Acusiont on 2021-06-24T15:14:27-05:00. ” With boss health and damage getting a nerf it gave us the edge we needed to overcome our gear deficiency. What the hell. Nobody killed the boss prior to the spell push back change If I remember right, the number was 1% of guilds had cleared Black Temple when Sunwell cameout. 5. 5 months since the release of TBC classic. They worked on WoW Classic, and learned what worked, what didn’t, and are using these lessons going forward. Shock Blast — Deals massive damage to the person with aggro on Lady Vashj and stuns them for five seconds. Damaged Undermine Supply Crates cost increased to 10 (was 5), and will now always contain some of the new Ahn’Qiraj crafting reagents, Scarabs, Idols from the Ruins or an Idol from the Temple of Ahn’Qiraj. wait, I still don't think the boss needed a nerf, it trivialized the whole fight. Boss fights were pretty easy, Netherspite got some anti-cheese stuff (which was net buff to the fight if you were cheesing it and meant nothing if you weren't) and made it so that two abilities couldn't overlap. How motivated am I to reclear content without any challenge, not very, if that no challenge goes on for too long, people will start dropping the game, and I would much rather keep the people that can do content than those Check out the Wowhead RWF Coverage Article for the latest lists of streamers, raid coverage, and boss guides. Classic The Burning Crusade Will Have Pre-Nerf Bosses. Perfect timing, nerfing the boss when Echo is sound asleep while Liquid is in the middle of their progress Comment by Skullhawk13 on 2024-09-27T20:05:42-05:00. Karazhan, Gruul, and Magtheridon will change from their pre-nerf version to a post-nerf version with the start of Hyjal was available on release and was technically available to enter, but nobody could kill Vashj/Kael pre 2. Keal was literally unkillable due to bugs, half the time he would reset in the errbody flyin phase. Massive Mythic Tindral Sageswift Nerfs on January 16th Weekly buff the boss. Mythic Tindral Now Nerfed - 20% Nerf to Health. Let's take a look at some of those pre-TBC posts and see how they held up after one year of TBC classic. I understand why Blizz chose to release Vashj and Kael’Thas in their pre-nerfed, arguably semi-bugged state. The title says it all: which one's harder boss encounter? Kel'Thuzad from Original Naxxramas or Lich King in Icecrown Citadel on normal difficulty. Attention Testers - Photos of all the original TBC/Gruul boss values from the TBC Dungeon Guidebook, patch 2. Pathetic boss fights now, nobody I know wanted this level of nerf. Sunwell should be tuned to be tough as nails. Live Posted 2023/03/08 at 8:49 Last week I got oneshot on my alt tank by a pack before last boss in TJS +16 and it wasn't even fortified week. You linked patch 2. 3 changes are in effect then the raiding will be way different than true TBC. Ragnaros heroic (pre nerf) was definitely the hardest boss of the Cataclysm, and probably the hardest boss so far in WoW. From a logical perspective - Making the TBC bosses post-nerf and with no hp/damage tunement would be making them easier than they were back in 2007. Patch 2. Pre-nerf KT We'll just get some non-nerfed/even harder bosses in Classic TBC Seasons of Mastery season 4. Blizzard reduced the health scaling on all event bosses in the pre-patch event, making them faster to kill. It's not entirely clear when Sunwell nerfs would go into effect, but I guess with T5 they showed it can be a little earlier than the proper end of the tier would have been. This is just a flat out nerf bc content is outdated once pre-patch drops. Phase 1. It has nothing to do with "gamer Dads". Heroic Queen Ansurek Nerfs on Weekly Reset. If you saw 4 mobs in a Heroic, you'd CC 3 of them if you could. Netherwhelp Pet for TBC Collectors Edition Owners; Patch 2. I am not saying they are wrong, but some of these tbc bosses feel very weird. Live Posted By no means is this a "boss instantly dies nerf" at all, more like boss was nigh unkillable with week 1 gear, or at least wouldve taken at least another day. I played TBC pretty hardcore for its whole duration. e. . A few bosses had small health nerfs (they’re still beefy) Some attacks got better telegraphs (that doesn’t make the dodge/parry timing not-a-challenge tho) We got some QoL changes to the P organ upgrade tree (rising dodge is default now) And a handful of minor adjustments here and there GARR Breakdown Firesworn: . God forbid they do the nerfs in their working hours. The raids aren't just "boss" encounters, they are the WHOLE raid including the trash. Now nerf Igira. if they survive the damage. Heroic Denathrius, also vastly more difficult than any boss in TBC, even with late patch gear. 1 onward I’m happy with that. Also release in PRE NERF does not mean NO NERFS EVER so M'uru will For an "anniversary" event, this is F'ing hard. Comment by schnizol on 2024-09-20T19:53:45-05:00. 3 had the 30% blanket nerf to all boss' hp values and I think some damage values, but all throughout tbc there were TONS of content nerfs. Which will knock all nearby players away. If they do 2 months of nerf, you'll see a biiiig player fall off because Hyjal and BT are nerfed too. I'm actually all for much bigger nerfs on trash just to cut raid time. The only nerf he ever received was the Wrath pre-patch blanket 30% health and damage nerf that applied to every single TBC raid mob and world boss. Considering blizz history of nerfing raids mid/late phase and the accelerated release schedule for cata classic i think imo its about time we start talking about this tier’s raids nerfs. These bosses are gatekeepers for both Hyjal and Black Temple - if they Blizzard killed TBC right from the pre-patch with 2 week instead of 6 week timeframe, char boosts, allowing botting, pvp arena points nerf, BG honor errors. Wrath pre-patch drops a huge list of sweeping nerfs across all TBC raids, which is where the majority of Sunwell's nerfs are. So Blizzard is turning up the difficulty. Horde What a shame. The bonus to Engineering is just as handy as the other races' profession bonuses. Instant mail between characters on the same account The removal of the buff/debuff limit Dual specs Instant mail and removal of the buff/debuff limit will be implemented at launch, and dual Last night my Guild did a full Kara run on the PTR. Comment by unknowny33 on 2023-01-17T20:06:05-06:00. 1, which is irrelevant - We're not following an actually patch-per-patch release plan. Classic Theme Thottbot Theme. We might be an exception but I think it's pretty much the same for a lot of guilds with capable people. 16GB RAM Original TBC was less than a month. This change is likely to be fairly controversial, as players Going by how they treated T5 nerfs we're probably gonna get Wrath pre-patch nerfs, which means between 30+% HP nerfs across the board on bosses. If anything, considering the output of most classes goes up and boss dmg output goes down before the HP nerf, the bosses' HP would need to be increased to keep it all relative. 4GHz frequency. However, . Live Posted 2024/10 How much more can they truly nerf this boss? It has been nerfed so much already, lol. karazhan. There were no bosses in TBC classic posing any threat at all, and I am afraid there won't be any in TBC classic ever. I'd be pretty disappointed if they started tbc after nerfs! Reply reply and both sit in the final raid of their respective expansions. Barkskin—No longer nerfs melee attack speed when active, making it a beneficial opener that can be cast prior to boss pulls with no downside. Heroic KJ, for example, was vastly more difficult than any boss in TBC. Attumen the Huntsman. A hotfix went out last night for the pre-patch event that reduces the amount of health of all bosses, resulting in faster kill times. 3 were nerfs to Illhoof, Shade, Netherspite and Nightbane. 12. 5 PTR 10. 4 which made every t4 t5 t6 boss far easier so everyone could catch up and have a solid look at Sunwell. It's nice to know though , The phase 1 nerfs are mostly irrelevant, Honestly I think T4 burned off most of the people that aren't jiving with TBC and T5 burned off most of the people who just want easy "free" bosses. Share Add a Comment. black temple. Just like Classic is nerfed right now with all the compounded things like reworked talents and reworked itemization layered on top of actual boss nerfs. blizzard. (Source) We’ve identified an issue with boss scaling, a These nerfs happened really early in TBC. Like why even do content in the current phase, when it gets literally 10x easier the next? (My guild barely eventually killed entire TK over 2 raid days, before the nerfs. Live PTR 10. e. Reply reply The extra Arcane Resistance trait helps in a few PvE situations, where Arcane damage is coming in, such as tanking the Mage boss on the Illidari Council. As There seems to be a lot of misinformation here. Alar is the only boss I actually found appealing in TK. Tier 7 stuff started out pretty much pre-nerfed. Blizzard killed TBC right from the pre-patch with 2 week instead of 6 week timeframe, char boosts, allowing botting, pvp arena points nerf, BG honor errors. I wanna know what is the opinion of the community: Should bosses be tuned to account for the fact that we as players have learned a We're not a sweaty guild by any means. 5 Beta. Blizzard has announced Heroic Queen Ansurek Nerfs on the next weekly reset. nerfing content won't fix those. Sort by: Best. Daxxarri Viscidus, Twin Emperors, I solo every Vanilla and TBC raid with my tank/cat hybrid (Cataclysm talents) except for some bosses that actually needed team play, (Viscidus, Lady Vash, Reliquary of souls, Old raid gold nerfs. If the same is done for TBC (everything being at 2. I’d say raiding didn’t honestly hit the same standard of modern challenge until Wrath and even most of wrath was super easy. , These nerfs arent even the sweeping nerfs that came in patch 2. Classic TBC is going to be nerfed, and it's going to be easy. Is the game considered easier now than it was a year ago? I've searched First boss RLP is still pretty bad, and those Azure Vault nerfs are not large. Kudos to blizzard for opening Players testing the new phase 3 raids -- Black Temple & Mount Hyjal -- discovered something interesting: some of the bosses were in their "post-nerf" states and certain aspects of the raids reflected their state after changes Hello, From P1 Karazhan all the way to P5 Sunwell, warriors have consistently been the strongest physical DPS in TBC, and often the strongest DPS overall. 9 67. Interesting post! I don't think it's clear enough though whether this post is about the original 2007 nerfs or nerfs being made today, but I might be reading something wrong. Void Reaver taking 15 days feels like a meme almost. Reply reply gamersEmpire but some of these tbc bosses feel very weird. Learn how to best defeat every boss with modern strategies and tips and tricks in The Burning Crusade Classic. As we previously mentioned , we’re working on a number of hotfixes to the most challenging bosses in Sepulcher of the First Ones. TBC was the hardest raiding Blizz ever made. (MDEBUFF – Dispel/Cleanse) If you kill one, you better watch out because Martydom, is an understatement. Very few guilds made serious attempts at KT/Vashj as they were thought to be bugged to hell and impossible. If you are targeted by this mechanic you must get away from the raid. Before then, Blizzard only applied aimed nerfs at specific bosses. Presumably we will still see the 3. It will allow casuals to progress faster and increase the hype for firelands, thoughts? Blizzard made 2 more announcements: the lengthy attunements for Mount Hyjal and Black Temple are here to stay, and that the tier 5 raids – Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep: The Eye – will now see bosses dropping 3 tier 5 tokens per boss, rather than the previous 2, which was already increased from a measly 1 from original TBC. congratz 1d Nerub-ar Palace Race to World First Day 11 Recap - Ansurek Enrage, Boss Nerfs. The nerfs that should come are the ones that accumulated by 2. People are quitting TBC classic en The nerfs were so substantial that this lead Warcraft Logs to treat pre-nerf and post-nerf parses separately. Patchwerk has a 7 min beserk timer. Anyway, pre-patch nerfs belong in pre-patch, not TBCC itself, as those nerfs are WotLK changes, not TBC changes. Tank and spank. There are 2 sides of this. We cleared the entire raid in 2 hours on our very first try. These spicy bois dish out some nasty IMMOLATES. I wanna know what is the opinion of the community: Should bosses be tuned to account for the fact that we as players have learned a Blizzard has previewed a massive round of Tindral Sageswift nerfs that will arrive with the January 16th weekly reset. WoW raids now use templates inspired by classic and TBC design--you have your Patchwerk boss, your mass adds boss, your nasty AoE boss, your gimmick boss, your phase boss, etc. An educated guess on the topic would be that they’re being this aggressive with the nerfs in order Pre Nerf KT wasnt too bad after everyone knew their role, but pre nerf Vashj had the super shitty RNG factor of the MCs that made it extra challenging even if you could get to P3 every pull. How to Get to Zul'Aman in Burning Crusade Classic Getting to and from Zul'Aman for the first time depends on whether you're Horde or Alliance. But it’s now 4. N-o-b-o-d-y. The reduced hitpoints merely shorten the fights a bit. 3 Balance - No Tuning Over Time; WoW Q&A Recap; TBC Classic Beta Opt-In; Five Phases of TBC Classic; Seals of Blood & Vengeance for Both Factions; Alas it would appear that Blizzard felt that trash nerfs would be inadequate, and that the bosses themselves are the problem. Players had become used to take on the pre-nerfed versions of content at first, and then have it nerfed shortly before the next phase’s content is released, giving everyone a chance to clear it in time. I don't know if Sunwell will need a whole lot of special tuning, though, because the Many bosses in TBC had some bugs that made it insanely hard to kill them if not impossible, idk if M'uru had one or not but it does not really matter. Bringing nerfs "in the next week or so" would line up with that, allowing the casual guilds to complete their attunements in the few weeks running up to December. Tempest Keep is one of the two raids that make up Tier 5 and includes one of Warcraft's most iconic characters, Kael'thas Sunstrider. Boss Nerfs Karazhan, Gruul, and Magtheridon will change from their pre-nerf version to a post-nerf version with the start of Phase 2. Spread out around High Warlord I’m no TBC expert, in fact far from it, but using the latest patch might also has its own power creep as well, which may far exceed that of any hp nerfs bosses might have already received. Should have been 20-30% across the board nerfs at least Should have been 20-30% across the board nerfs at least Then at the final TBC patch (2. The difference between Magtheridon and Gruul, Hydross and more. With scheduled weekly maintenance (August 31 in this region), we’ll release Patch 2. TBC Raid Nerfs On Dec 14th (Vashj, KT, Tidewalker) News us. There are some hopes placed on pre-nerf M'uru but I don't have it high. He's just predicting that we're going to get the Wrath pre-patch nerfs when they blanket nerf Sunwell. Some bug fixes, but a lot of nerfs. Maybe they wipe 10 times on each boss in BT, but with enough time, eventually they can beat the "end boss" of TBC. Tbc will be fucking awesome if we get pre nerf heroics, kara, vashj, etc. Comment by Allakhazam figures that blizzard would make another "lava core" item that of course all tanks will get first crack at. Sunwell doesnt have as much of that RNG factor like Pre Nerf Vashj and is Tbh I was hoping for another Lords of Dread nerf lol. Edit: These nerfs are no longer being while some of your guildies may be relieved because they are tired of spending 3 hours wiping on the same boss and have a family to get back to. Growl—In TBC, taunts are modified to use Hit Rating rather than Spell Hit Rating when determining their resist chance, but still use a 17% base resist chance compared to 9% for all other melee abilities. What they want to do with TBC Classic is to update the code, but leave the game intact: #SomeChanges. But it being so early required big nerfs fast imo. It might be interesting to have them in as optional dungeons. We beat the roster boss after bleeding long-time veteran players due to burnout or performance issues. We also detail important raid buffs, debuffs, and consumables to optimize your performance. Also completely makes speed running irrelevant as it just becomes boss kill times. As crazy as it sounds. Blizzard has posted hotfixes for today which includes some Nokhud Offensive nerfs! Live PTR. Specifically, Kaivax said: Please be reminded that all bosses in Serpentshrine Cavern and The Eye will be adjusted to their final Blizzard has reached a decision regarding the nerfs to Phase 2 bosses which was previously reverted, explaining in a Blue Post that these changes will go live on the week of Patch 2. Jailor nerfs? The supposedly hardest boss, that was ultimately actually easy, is made even easier? On nm it took me 19 tries with a pug when he first came out and we kept changing members so they had to re-learn the strats every time. Updated itemization layered on top of actual nerfs = ez mode. “@maximum Anduin has to be the most nerfed boss in modern WoW. SSC is far more fun, and pre-nerf Vashj P3 was a great "hold on for dear life" style of boss fight that I've been missing since Naxx. A couple of nerfs to the two hardest dungeons. Comment by GodsFaith on 2024-02-06T10:00:16-06:00. Blizzard has reached a decision regarding the nerfs to Phase 2 bosses which was previously reverted, explaining in a Blue Post that these changes will go live on the week of December 14. Live PTR 11. In original TBC, these races were not available during the pre-patch, and were only unlocked with the official expansion release. Reply reply BuccoBruce • BfA bosses don't really need a HP nerf, LFR to heroic is soloable with the exception of some mechanics that need several people. Yeah, even back in the day MH and BT were regarded as disappointingly undertuned coming out of T5, and that's from guilds who did not have the luxury of farming Vashj/KT for months before T6 came out. The following week, we’ll end Arena Season 1 at Click the cut for blue posts on boss nerfs and LFR changes! Old-World Boss Nerfs. THIS INCLUDES a flat 30% nerf to ALL mobs and bosses in all raids and dungeons and removal om attunement quests. 12 values. TBC Quests To Save for WotLK Classic Launch; Two Tier 5 Tokens Per Boss. At the end of TBC they nerfed everything by 30%, but that was more of a "hey expansion is nearly over, go check out that boss you couldn't kill before and enjoy your soon to be outdated loot". But prior to TBC, anyone who wanted to play a warrior was laughed off this subreddit, class discords, guild chat, etc. 3, making future trips to Zul'Aman much easier. There might be something in Vanilla/TBC era that was nerfed more but no shot MoP forward. Others will be mostly left I just watched an NA GDKP run and it looks like all trash + boss nerfs are in, KT adds had same HP in P1 and P3, it was really low in both phases, murlocs had 18k hp, solarian did the baron geddon bomb instead of soaking. For the last time: there has been no 30% HP nerf to everything in TBC until WotLK pre-patch! I. Boss hp. Escape Artist — Escape the effects of any immobilization or movement speed reduction effect. Nihilum defeated the first boss in Hyjal that same day, were 5/9 BT by the end of the next day (May 26). In today's RWF recap video, Dratnos and Tettles cover the last 24 hours which have mostly Magtheridon, the former Lord of Outland, is a Pit Lord who conquered the ruins of the orcish homeworld following its destruction. Comment by Bringbackboshi on 2024-09-24T19:44:50-05:00. Mythic+ tuning hotfixes have returned after a hiatus with massive nerfs to difficult bosses and huge nerfs to Neltharus. :D ( or D: idk how I feel about this idea sounds kinda based if they do SoM for TBC too with new shit every season) The boss nerfs in These nerfs will be coming with this week’s maintenance, which will take place in the morning of November 9 for NA / OCE servers and November 10 for EU servers. it's because tbc is bleeding numbers due to people quitting for being garbage at the game. Alongside next week's Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep boss nerfs, Blizzard has announced that players will no longer need to complete the attunements to zone into the raids. 1d Crystal Vale Raid & Thunderaan's Thundering Loot - Season of Discovery. Probably two biggest changes were the TBC Heroic gem nerfs in October 2020 , now recently as soon as Shadowlands Pre-Patch hit the legion set bonuses and legion legendaries got disabled. Attunements were removed by 2. it's good to have some hard evidence that this shit actually did change a bit during TBC. Geraith #1 - July 23, 2012, 8:07 p. Nightbane also got major nerfs to most of his P2 stuff. Some bosses will be hit quite significantly (Kael, Vashj, Morogrim adds, Solarian). Removing it and you might as well just make each raid walk from 1 room to the next with the next boss in it. The bosses seem to have the exact hp values as TBC Classic and I assume original 2007 TBC. However, due to the Alongside next week's TBC Classic Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep boss nerfs, Blizzard has announced that players will no longer need to complete I would bet that most guilds in classic TBC that cleared 10/10 would have real problems with the 2nd or 3rd boss on mythic difficulty on retail. Curse EU was 4/5 Hyjal by May 29th, only 5 days after guilds could access the instances. If you can't kill the bosses without a nerf. These are the 8 elementals surrounding Garr. #TBC #TK #AlarTBC Classic - Pre-Nerf Al'ar Boss GuideFirst attempt at a boss guide00:00 - Intro00:30 - Guide Start That would be his 3. Dragonflight Hotfixes for March 8th - Nokhud Offensive Nerfs. It was still a 75 to 100 pull boss for mid/late CE guilds. TBC Classic is gonna be the same thing. Just pugged the raid the last two weeks and this boss was easily one shot both times. WOW Classic TBC’s phase 2 will start on September 15th, so you can imagine how much RNG was involved with killing this boss. Happens every tier. Live Posted Last boss's Hardened Crystal needs to do quite a bit less damage with its shield up. Quite some years ago I played a pre-nerf TBC realm with boosted HP and that was much better imo. wzry nfbshd cpmfi jdqjzn ejrtk zftegmv yiet fvz ialqcf veb